
Below is an excerpt from a conversation that may or may not have taken place:
Guy A: "I swear. You know that young woman I was telling you about that visits my work that was a distraction for me? I feel like Grace Kelly is in the break room right now preparing breakfast. Now how on earth am I supposed to concentrate on drafting red lines with that going on?"
Guy B: "haha...are you going to be her archibald leach?"
Guy A: "No. Her Prince Rainier--minus the speed boat accident....This reminds me of our talks on proportion and beauty. I value someone for who they are, not what they simply look like and yet I’m speechless when confronted by an extremely beautiful woman. I’d probably give her 50 dollars if she asked me for it. So why is that? Simple mathematics. Instinct and genetics override my rational though process and I am drawn to this person not for who she is but how proportionate her features are. We should come up with a new phase to describe women like this so we keep our cool and are reminded that it’s not our fault we’re drooling over them—it’s our biology. When we see a beautiful woman, we’ll say, “she’s Phi”—meaning that her features come closer to approaching the proportion of 1:1.6180339 than other women. There. Problem solved."
Guy B:"haha...thats good. But then again there are golden ratios within the non typical beauties out there too...so a chubby girl may have a beautifully proportionate face, but because of her weight people will call her fatty!!"
Guy A: "I hate to sound like an ass her but a cubby girl and fit girl probably have different proportions in the face. So there is a beautify girl waiting to be discovered in every cubby girl because the proportions are there but not perceivable. You bring up an interesting point though—that it’s not the fat or the weight that is the problem, it just that the fat hides the proportion. Our evolutionary history doesn’t know the value of a larger person because so few existed over time. When food is scarce and labor is hard and manual, extra weight is almost non-existent. Of course, analyzing of these concepts leads to a new understanding of traditional beauty and the acceptance of a “new” standard."
Guy B: "A-hole!!! haha. But face wise; eyes, nose and mouth stay in the same place. so the chubby girl can still be pretty and proportional...it's when the 3rd 4rth and 5th chin start to form that proportion flies right out the window! It's like little face in dick tracy...kinda weird!"
Guy A: "I see what you mean. Yes, most of the face can still be pretty because fat does not influence the size or shape of a person’s skull…I think I’ll post this conversation (maybe edited) on my blog page. I need more entries to get conversations started."
Guy B: "It is a good topic of discussion!!! To see if the golden ratio applies in cultures where the larger you are the more beautiful, or if then societal impact and conditioning take over..."
Guy A: "Good Point. I thought of a title for an essay to be written on this topic. It’s called: ‘Fat Faces and the Divine Proportion: The Connection Between Societal Prejudice and Evolutionary Biology...What do you think?"
Guy B: "haha...that's really good! That could get you a masters or a nobel peace prize...I'm serious!"
*Endnote (added 01/09/08): I just wanted to add that after having this discussion, we both came to the conclusion that we as society don't treat people with weight issues very well and we were hoping to find out why that is so. I personally feel like I have a better understanding of why these prejudices exist and how to be aware of them in order to not let myself get wrapped up in the apparent superficiality of society.




